7908
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7908
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Aug. 21, 1979
Peter Jordan
Re my letter to you yesterday.
I will be willing to go along with your proposition... Provided you clear any and all experiments (with me), in advance, with Jeffrey Mishlove. I want to know what I am getting into. Also the "remuneration" would have to meet my standards.
Ted Owens
x PK / Man x
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Owens
200 NE 76th St
Vancouver, Wash. 98664
PORTLAND OR 972
PM
22 AUG
1979
ALWAYS USE
ZIP CODE
THE LAND OF THE FREE
USA 15c
HOME OF THE BRAVE
Jeffrey Mishlove
3101 Washington St
San Francisco, California
94115
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217 Connecticut Rd. Union, New Jersey 07083
# Peter Jordan
8/24/79
Jeffrey Mishlove
3101 Washington St.
San Francisco, CA 94115
Dear Jeff:
My apologies for this ridiculous misunderstanding. At the time I sent you my last letter I had come under an enormous amount of pressure; all my endeavors were being frustrated one after another. I hope you understand
Your personal suggestions for experimental designs are excellent. I am thinking of contacting both Gertrude Schmeidler and Berthold Schwartz for collaboration in the project. They are good friends of mine, and have offered their skills and talents in my many poltergeist investigations.
On pure speculation, I will gladly pay for Owens flight out to New York (round-trip), as well as half of whatever the feature article I am planning will pay. A written contract to this effect will be provided. Should the experiments fail, however, and plans for publication of the results be abandoned, I will personally pay Owens $100.00 as a courtesy fee. More charitable I could not possibly be. This money will come out of my pocket, and is more of an educational contribution than a financial investment. I would like to see the article go into Omni, but their standards are, as you probably know, exceedingly high. The experiments would have to be tightly controlled, so as to minimize the chances of artifact or chance occurrence.
A.S.P.R may not cooperate; Osis can be somewhat unreasonable at times. PRF would surely help, but distance might be a problem there.
I will approach Schmeidler about the project next week, and Schwarz too. This may take a little time to piece together. I will strive for perfection.
Hope to hear from you soon...
Yours,
Peter A. Jordan
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Peter Jordan
217 Connecticut Rd., Union, New Jersey 07083
NEW YORK, NY
-PM
27 AUG
1979
Jeffrey Mishlove
3101 Washington St.
San Francisco, CA 94115
USA 15c
HOME OF THE BRAVE
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217 Connecticut Rd. Union, New Jersey 07083
# Peter Jordan
Jeffrey
8/14/79
Ted Owens
200 N.E. 76th St.
Vancouver, Washington 98665
Dear Ted:
I wrote you over seven years ago, at a time when I had just gotten acclimated to the incredibly bizarre nature of UFOLOGY, and when psychic phenomena was as real a possibility to me as a space colony.
Now, in August of 1979, I write you to propose that we attempt to establish once and for all the authenticity of your powers for the general public. To that end, I would suggest that we plan to establish some tests under the auspices of the American Society of Psychical Research, her, in New York City, one of the most well-respected parapsychological institutions in the world. Please be assured that financial remuneration would be made to you prior to your involvement in the experiments, from my own pocket. What I hope to do, you see, is publish a feature article on the tests for a major publication.
Jeffrey Mishlove was interested in helping me to publish a book on your experiences and claims, but his cousin, writer D. Scott Rogo, (unfortunately beat me to it. He still says he will support me, and suggested I write you for your own thoughts on the matter.
The project would definitely involve your coming to New York City for interviews and, of course, the experiments themselves. Could this be arranged, Ted?
You are quite a remarkable individual, but, perhaps because of your mythic-like presence, few have taken serious cognizance of your claims.
Its time to change that. I want to help.
Let me know what you feel about the proposal.
Thanks for your kindness.
Sincerely,
Peter Jordan
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August 20, 1979
Mr. Peter Jordan
217 Connecticut Rd.
Union, New Jersey 07083
Dear Mr. Jordan:
I have yours of August 14 at hand, and have studied it carefully.
You are correct. The American Society of Psychical Research (or Psychic Research?) is a most prestigious and respected organization.
The fact that Jeffrey Mishlove (one of the very few scientists I trust) is in the picture, albeit obliquely, puts the stamp of honesty and integrity upon your proposal, as far as I am concerned. He is a brilliant young scientist.
I am agreeable to your proposal, Mr. Jordan. The scientific experiments themselves, however, must not contain hypnosis, drugs, or anything of any nature that would cause me to not be in control of myself at all times.
It is difficult for me to understand, Mr. Jordan, how I could be tested as other psychics are tested, for the simple reason that I do things other psychics do not do and in a modus operandi which other psychics do not, could not, employ. My powers, to the best of my knowledge, do not fall within the framework of modern science. How does one test an "X" factor? From the framework of symbolic logic, it would seem that I would enter into scientific tests from the standpoint of an invalid premise from the beginning. The proposition would, therefore, be necessarily invalid, it seems to me, at the summing up.
I will, however, be willing to go along with your proposition.
Sincerely,
Ted Owens (PK Man)
200 NE 76th St.
Vancouver, Washington 98665
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Aug. 23, 1979
Jeffrey Mishlove...
Dear Jeffrey:
Confirming my phone call to you yesterday, I would be willing to attempt the experiment proposed to you by Dr. Jule Eisenbud that of utilizing parapsychological phenomena to produce life in a test tube.
I have never attempted such a thing... but then in 1946, at Duke, when Dr. Rhine & Louisa proposed I make a pair of scissors fall over with my mind... I had never tried that before either (and doubted that I could do so)... but I did, in fact, successfully perform the feat. Perhaps I could do this also. My suggestions re controls were merely that... suggestions.
Ted Owens
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Jeffrey
The 2 weeks is to let cumulative psi/OD power build up in the room!
P.S. I wrote the other sheet earlier today. Tonight... more dawned on me! Use a shotgun effect! this idea + challenge excites me! ten experiments simultaneously, not one! Me in a large room, cut in half by tapes, rope or some barrier. I cross that barrier! On the far side of the room, say, 1-5 test tubes set up to "create life." A light that I can turn off, turn on, with my mind. Some object, heavy, that I can knock off a tray with my mind. A cassette tape, recorded, that I can blank out. Film that I can fog. And so on. Now, in the room would be a scientist. He (or she) can walk into either half of the room at any time, to check experiment or to check me.
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2 P.S.
If the scientist leaves the room for toilet... I leave & accompany while he locks the door to the room. Vice versa, I suppose.
Now, as for me... I need to work loose in my own inimitable way. Because I know how to build up my powers and exert them at max capacity!
So on my side of the room I need my tape machine (with jazz tape to play); a full set of pro drums to drum on when the mood seizes; a good color TV set with huge screen; a plentiful supply of good cigars (am a chain cigar smoker a la Churchill) and all the Scotch & cold beer that I want.
The scientist & I "work" from 8-5 each day. (Oh, I'll have "PK maps" for each experiment on the wall.)
Scientist should check room temp because I'll be inviting my SI's in, who are invisible.
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3 P.S. You couldn't stand my gaze, so I wish Dr. Ryzl could be the scientist on guard. or Henry Monteith
Scientist might want to check my electric, or EM (mind) capacity at any time. So any instruments for this would be OK.
I will cooperate in all ways in this respect.
World scientists have a rare, unprecedented opportunity herein, to make some exciting parapsych/psi discoveries! Once in a lifetime, as a matter of fact, cause I might not be "on deck" too much longer for them to investigate me + my phenomena.
I believe that I can cause some mind-boggling things to happen. Or again, perhaps nothing will happen. Ha ha. But you know me, Jeffrey, and my box score to date. Frankly, I will bet on me!
Whoever sets this up would have to give me a thousand in advance to cover my rent + bills for my family back at home. They'd have to give me a nearby motel room + food, plus transport to + from home to the "meet."
Ted Owens
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CAPE CHARLES
VIRGINIA
VANCOUVER
WASHINGTON
August 27, 1979
BERNALLIO
NEW MEXICO
Greetings, Theodore;
..........MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN..........
When we meet, I will be your EXECUTIONER, personally!!!
SO BE IT
RAY MEIER
- * -
P.O. BOX 66
ARENAS VALLEY,
NEW MEXICO
88022
TED OWENS
200 N.E. 76th Street
Vancouver, Washington
98665
Jeffrey
Aug. 21, 1979
Peter Jordan
Re my letter to you yesterday.
I will be willing to go along with your proposition... Provided you clear any and all experiments (with me), in advance, with Jeffrey Mishlove. I want to know what I am getting into. Also the "remuneration" would have to meet my standards.
Ted Owens
x PK / Man x
=== Page 2 of 11
Owens
200 NE 76th St
Vancouver, Wash. 98664
PORTLAND OR 972
PM
22 AUG
1979
ALWAYS USE
ZIP CODE
THE LAND OF THE FREE
USA 15c
HOME OF THE BRAVE
Jeffrey Mishlove
3101 Washington St
San Francisco, California
94115
=== Page 3 of 11
217 Connecticut Rd. Union, New Jersey 07083
# Peter Jordan
8/24/79
Jeffrey Mishlove
3101 Washington St.
San Francisco, CA 94115
Dear Jeff:
My apologies for this ridiculous misunderstanding. At the time I sent you my last letter I had come under an enormous amount of pressure; all my endeavors were being frustrated one after another. I hope you understand
Your personal suggestions for experimental designs are excellent. I am thinking of contacting both Gertrude Schmeidler and Berthold Schwartz for collaboration in the project. They are good friends of mine, and have offered their skills and talents in my many poltergeist investigations.
On pure speculation, I will gladly pay for Owens flight out to New York (round-trip), as well as half of whatever the feature article I am planning will pay. A written contract to this effect will be provided. Should the experiments fail, however, and plans for publication of the results be abandoned, I will personally pay Owens $100.00 as a courtesy fee. More charitable I could not possibly be. This money will come out of my pocket, and is more of an educational contribution than a financial investment. I would like to see the article go into Omni, but their standards are, as you probably know, exceedingly high. The experiments would have to be tightly controlled, so as to minimize the chances of artifact or chance occurrence.
A.S.P.R may not cooperate; Osis can be somewhat unreasonable at times. PRF would surely help, but distance might be a problem there.
I will approach Schmeidler about the project next week, and Schwarz too. This may take a little time to piece together. I will strive for perfection.
Hope to hear from you soon...
Yours,
Peter A. Jordan
=== Page 4 of 11
Peter Jordan
217 Connecticut Rd., Union, New Jersey 07083
NEW YORK, NY
-PM
27 AUG
1979
Jeffrey Mishlove
3101 Washington St.
San Francisco, CA 94115
USA 15c
HOME OF THE BRAVE
=== Page 5 of 11
217 Connecticut Rd. Union, New Jersey 07083
# Peter Jordan
Jeffrey
8/14/79
Ted Owens
200 N.E. 76th St.
Vancouver, Washington 98665
Dear Ted:
I wrote you over seven years ago, at a time when I had just gotten acclimated to the incredibly bizarre nature of UFOLOGY, and when psychic phenomena was as real a possibility to me as a space colony.
Now, in August of 1979, I write you to propose that we attempt to establish once and for all the authenticity of your powers for the general public. To that end, I would suggest that we plan to establish some tests under the auspices of the American Society of Psychical Research, her, in New York City, one of the most well-respected parapsychological institutions in the world. Please be assured that financial remuneration would be made to you prior to your involvement in the experiments, from my own pocket. What I hope to do, you see, is publish a feature article on the tests for a major publication.
Jeffrey Mishlove was interested in helping me to publish a book on your experiences and claims, but his cousin, writer D. Scott Rogo, (unfortunately beat me to it. He still says he will support me, and suggested I write you for your own thoughts on the matter.
The project would definitely involve your coming to New York City for interviews and, of course, the experiments themselves. Could this be arranged, Ted?
You are quite a remarkable individual, but, perhaps because of your mythic-like presence, few have taken serious cognizance of your claims.
Its time to change that. I want to help.
Let me know what you feel about the proposal.
Thanks for your kindness.
Sincerely,
Peter Jordan
=== Page 6 of 11
August 20, 1979
Mr. Peter Jordan
217 Connecticut Rd.
Union, New Jersey 07083
Dear Mr. Jordan:
I have yours of August 14 at hand, and have studied it carefully.
You are correct. The American Society of Psychical Research (or Psychic Research?) is a most prestigious and respected organization.
The fact that Jeffrey Mishlove (one of the very few scientists I trust) is in the picture, albeit obliquely, puts the stamp of honesty and integrity upon your proposal, as far as I am concerned. He is a brilliant young scientist.
I am agreeable to your proposal, Mr. Jordan. The scientific experiments themselves, however, must not contain hypnosis, drugs, or anything of any nature that would cause me to not be in control of myself at all times.
It is difficult for me to understand, Mr. Jordan, how I could be tested as other psychics are tested, for the simple reason that I do things other psychics do not do and in a modus operandi which other psychics do not, could not, employ. My powers, to the best of my knowledge, do not fall within the framework of modern science. How does one test an "X" factor? From the framework of symbolic logic, it would seem that I would enter into scientific tests from the standpoint of an invalid premise from the beginning. The proposition would, therefore, be necessarily invalid, it seems to me, at the summing up.
I will, however, be willing to go along with your proposition.
Sincerely,
Ted Owens (PK Man)
200 NE 76th St.
Vancouver, Washington 98665
=== Page 7 of 11
Aug. 23, 1979
Jeffrey Mishlove...
Dear Jeffrey:
Confirming my phone call to you yesterday, I would be willing to attempt the experiment proposed to you by Dr. Jule Eisenbud that of utilizing parapsychological phenomena to produce life in a test tube.
I have never attempted such a thing... but then in 1946, at Duke, when Dr. Rhine & Louisa proposed I make a pair of scissors fall over with my mind... I had never tried that before either (and doubted that I could do so)... but I did, in fact, successfully perform the feat. Perhaps I could do this also. My suggestions re controls were merely that... suggestions.
Ted Owens
=== Page 8 of 11
Jeffrey
The 2 weeks is to let cumulative psi/OD power build up in the room!
P.S. I wrote the other sheet earlier today. Tonight... more dawned on me! Use a shotgun effect! this idea + challenge excites me! ten experiments simultaneously, not one! Me in a large room, cut in half by tapes, rope or some barrier. I cross that barrier! On the far side of the room, say, 1-5 test tubes set up to "create life." A light that I can turn off, turn on, with my mind. Some object, heavy, that I can knock off a tray with my mind. A cassette tape, recorded, that I can blank out. Film that I can fog. And so on. Now, in the room would be a scientist. He (or she) can walk into either half of the room at any time, to check experiment or to check me.
=== Page 9 of 11
2 P.S.
If the scientist leaves the room for toilet... I leave & accompany while he locks the door to the room. Vice versa, I suppose.
Now, as for me... I need to work loose in my own inimitable way. Because I know how to build up my powers and exert them at max capacity!
So on my side of the room I need my tape machine (with jazz tape to play); a full set of pro drums to drum on when the mood seizes; a good color TV set with huge screen; a plentiful supply of good cigars (am a chain cigar smoker a la Churchill) and all the Scotch & cold beer that I want.
The scientist & I "work" from 8-5 each day. (Oh, I'll have "PK maps" for each experiment on the wall.)
Scientist should check room temp because I'll be inviting my SI's in, who are invisible.
=== Page 10 of 11
3 P.S. You couldn't stand my gaze, so I wish Dr. Ryzl could be the scientist on guard. or Henry Monteith
Scientist might want to check my electric, or EM (mind) capacity at any time. So any instruments for this would be OK.
I will cooperate in all ways in this respect.
World scientists have a rare, unprecedented opportunity herein, to make some exciting parapsych/psi discoveries! Once in a lifetime, as a matter of fact, cause I might not be "on deck" too much longer for them to investigate me + my phenomena.
I believe that I can cause some mind-boggling things to happen. Or again, perhaps nothing will happen. Ha ha. But you know me, Jeffrey, and my box score to date. Frankly, I will bet on me!
Whoever sets this up would have to give me a thousand in advance to cover my rent + bills for my family back at home. They'd have to give me a nearby motel room + food, plus transport to + from home to the "meet."
Ted Owens
=== Page 11 of 11
CAPE CHARLES
VIRGINIA
VANCOUVER
WASHINGTON
August 27, 1979
BERNALLIO
NEW MEXICO
Greetings, Theodore;
..........MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN..........
When we meet, I will be your EXECUTIONER, personally!!!
SO BE IT
RAY MEIER
- * -
P.O. BOX 66
ARENAS VALLEY,
NEW MEXICO
88022
TED OWENS
200 N.E. 76th Street
Vancouver, Washington
98665
Jeffrey
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